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EpsonFan Posted
The Epson LS 800 is an excellent UST 4k projector and truly shines in high ambient light situations. Pros: 1) This is a truly "ultra" short throw projector. I am projecting a 120 inch screen from about 7 inches from the wall. Makes the setup very clean and compact. Could fit on some tv stands if deep enough. 2) This projector is bright. I typically don't watch movies and sports with very dim lights, I like to have some reasonable amount of light. The projector shines in this use case. It is bright enough to project a colorful and contrasty picture even with light in the room. The attached picture is with my 4 ceiling lights on. 3) Love the colors in Cinema picture mode. I have always liked the Cinema mode on Epson projectors, they seem very natural and cinematic. However, their is a caveat ( See cons below) The truly "ultra" short throw and bright picture make this an ideal candidate to replace living/family room TVs. I also casually game and found the projector very responsive without any noticeable lag, I am not an expert but it was plenty good for me. The Audio also was very good out of the box although I do use an external soundbar. I have owned Epson projectors before and I like their out of the box color settings in general, however here I had to tweak a few things which leads to the cons below. Cons: 1) The projector's color is most pleasing to me in the Cinema picture mode. However, the projector is significantly less bright than it's Max capability in this mode. The projector is it's brightest in the Dynamic picture mode. However, I found the colors to be too saturated and unnatural in this mode. So, what to do? Ultimately I had to play with the wall color temperature settings along with the color temperature settings as well as saturation/color settings in the Dynamic picture mode to get it as close to the Cinema mode as possible....which leads to.. 2) Epson has removed a lot of the color correction capability it has on its projectors usually on this model. Don't get me wrong, it still has adjustment capabilities but not to the extent on its other projectors. This made it very difficult to adjust the picture color to my liking. Usually I don't tinker with the settings as Epson's Cinema mode is very good. However, here I had to since the Dynamic mode is the one you want to be using for brightness as well as better HDR. I got it to eventually where I was satisfied but it was not easy. Hope, Epson can add a color correction option with a future firmware release that is similar to their other projectors. Conclusion: Despite the cons above I highly recommend the projector. It's truly ultra short throw nature and bright picture in Dynamic picture mode make this a viable tv replacement in situations with ambient light. I have always liked Epson's color in their Cinema mode settings ( feel they are similar to Sony in terms of accurate and natural colors). I just had to work the settings here to get the dynamic picture mode( best brightness and HDR) to look like the Cinema mode.
ronk1952 Posted
It is really an experience almost like being in a movie theater in my living room when paired with Epson’s 120 inch short throw screen. It’s wasn’t cheap but I feel it was money well spent. As you can see in the picture even in daylight the picture is bright.
This review is from Epson - LS800 4K PRO-UHD Ultra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Laser Projector, 4000 Lumens, HDR, up to150", Android TV, Yamaha Speakers - White
JohnF Posted
I was a replacing a fixed Sony projector I had that no longer worked in my new space and needed a short throw projector. The quality is fantastic, but I would recommend spending the extra cash on an ALR screen to maximize picture clarity and get 4k pixilation. I also purchased a motorized projector stand that opens and closes with TV power.
TamaraJ Posted
Great unit. Takes a while to set up initially. Onboard sound is good but we use a receiver. Works perfectly with our 150 inch screen. Sharp picture.
DanielleD Posted
Great projector, beautiful picture, difficulty mamaging surround sound from projector, also had difficulties purchasing a large enough and high quality screen. Satisified after a few hiccups, overall great!
SamG Posted
There’s a lot to like about the Epson LS800. It’s an ultra short throw projector that gives you a huge, bright, and crisp screen without the hassle of mounting and running long cords. It doesn’t eliminate all of the hassles associated with going with a projector and it’s missing some features I really wish Epson would have included for the price, but overall I’m happy with it as a home cinema solution for my basement. Getting the LS800 unboxed, it was a lot bigger than I was expecting, or at least a lot bigger than Epson’s marketing material makes it look. At 27.4” wide x 6.2” tall x 13.4” deep it fits on my IKEA BESTA stand, but takes up a good amount of the top space. I set it up in my basement, whose ceilings are around 90” high, and ended up having to take the legs off my stand so I could put my screen at a reasonable height. Something to keep in mind when you’re planning for this. Getting my soundbar setup with this was also a challenge as there was not enough room on my TV stand for both the soundbar and the projector to sit. I ended up mounting the soundbar on the wall underneath the screen and while it can interfere slightly with the projector beam, it can be corrected using the software. Epson offers ALR screens to pair with the LS800, but they start at $2K for a 100” screen, making the cost of a complete setup from Epson around $5500. Since I was setting this up in my basement where I could control the lighting I chose to go with a more basic screen from Silver Ticket Products using a gray material instead of white for better contrast, though I found while getting the projector setup that the large bezels prevented the projector from hitting the bottom half inch of the screen material. Not a huge deal, but if you’re looking at screens for this I’d recommend looking for something with a low profile frame. Once I had the projector and my screen placed I turned it on and started adjusting the image. The projector has a knob at the front that allows you to adjust the angle of the image to raise it up if needed and the front feet are adjustable to correct any tilt in the image. It’s best if you can keep the projector as flat as possible on your surface and position your screen accordingly as using the knob to increase the angle introduces a keystone effect that needs to be corrected in software. The lens zoom adjustments are all digital rather than mechanical on other traditional projectors, so correcting a bad image does mean you’re throwing away some of your resolution. I used Epson’s onscreen menu to correct my screen corners and ended up pulling the projector far enough away from the wall that the screen went slightly beyond all 4 corners per Epson’s instructions. There was also another way to correct the screen with an app, but I didn’t use that. The onscreen method works really well and is very intuitive to use. I was able to get a nice square image with very little effort. The LS800 advertises “4K PRO-UHD Resolution”, but the native resolution is 1080p and Epson uses a pixel shifting technology to achieve a 4K output from there. I know this has its detractors and you’ll often hear it referred to as “faux-K”, but on my 100” screen everything looked plenty sharp to me and 4K content looks suitably high-res. Watching higher resolution streaming shows and lower resolution TV broadcasts was a great experience on the LS800.The image on my gray screen material is very bright and looks great even with some lights on. Both SDR and HDR content look fantastic You get 3 HDMI ports, one of which supports ARC and another is a dedicated gaming input. The HDMI inputs are only 2.0, so no 4K/120, VRR, or ALLM, though 1080p/120 is on the table. The ARC port is also NOT eARC, which is another disappointing omission. I wish Epson had found a way to include this and the more gaming-centric features in the LS800 especially because its gaming capabilities are one of the selling points. Despite the omission of those items, gaming on my Xbox Series X was a good experience and I didn’t notice any input lag while playing on it. The LS800 comes with Android TV built in, which was exciting to me since I regularly use a Chromecast with Google TV on my other TV, but it’s an older version of the software. Frustratingly, Netflix is not available to download on Epson’s implementation of Android TV. I don’t know why this is, maybe some kind of licensing issue, but it’s annoying for sure. On top of that, Android TV will only output 2 channel stereo sound even if you have a 5.1 system hooked up to the ARC port, so I would recommend bringing your own streaming device. I have primarily been using my Xbox. I was excited to test the built-in speaker on the LS800 as it looks very substantial and the Yamaha branding was promising, but I came away disappointed. It certainly sounds better than most TV speakers do, but given the size of the front speaker grill I was expecting something approaching a compact soundbar in quality and it doesn’t get there. I was going to stick with my Samsung soundbar setup regardless and I imagine most people considering this projector will also have a dedicated sound setup. I think the LS800 is a great short throw projector with just a few disappointing omissions. Most of the worst qualities can be solved by adding an external receiver/sound system and a separate streaming device. A projector is still the most economical way to get a screen larger than 85” and this is a great option if you don’t want to mess around with ceiling brackets, junction boxes, and long HDMI cables and still want a high quality image.
KennethG Posted
Great projector for the living room application. Easily offset though. It projects light outside of the screen. Unsure on how to correct that.
Ethan Posted
I am replacing a Sony VZ1000ES (premium UST) with the Epson LS800, which is integrated into Savant. I will say that the picture quality and brightness of the LS800 are unmatched from any UST for daylight viewing. Dark viewing is pretty good as well, but it isn't quite as sharp as some others on the market. The LS800 has the shortest throw of any UST on the market as well, which is one of the main reasons I purchased this unit. The unit has ARC, but be aware that HDMI 3 does not work with ARC. Also, to use HDMI 3, the projector boots into a Game OS and you cannot make any adjustments or changes to the projector outside of volume. Pros: -Bright, and will look like a TV most of the time when paired with a ALR (CLR or Fresnel) screen -Super short throw, so it can be used on just about any furniture flush to the wall -Actual 120hz at 1080p from HDMI 3, makes PC gaming awesome -Very easy to setup and adjust -Aesthetics, looks really nice on a stand Cons: -Price, at this price there should be more options and customizability -Only IR control -HDMI 3 does not work with ARC -No default HDMI, so every time the projector boots it will go into the smart screen (suspend works as intended though) -3 HDMI, should be 4 HDMI if ARC can't work on HDMI 3 -Projector settings are separate from Google settings, so there is two settings buttons...
SimantaD Posted
picture is ok but creates a halo / white shadow from its light bleeding about 4 inches outside the screen even when only using physical movement and no zoom, on elitescreen clr 3 123" fixed. Operating system is glitchy as u can’t default it to open fire stick from the receiver
This review is from Epson - LS800 4K PRO-UHD Ultra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Laser Projector, 4000 Lumens, HDR, up to150", Android TV, Yamaha Speakers - White
JDThird Posted
I grabbed this because I have a great 125" motorized projection screen and an Optoma UHD60 projector that I love using for some movies and gaming once in a while. I have a gorgeous OLED TV so I'm used to a really high-quality picture. The Optoma has been flawless and looks gorgeous, so I knew this would have some stiff competition. It's very well boxed, but unlike so many things that are boxed well, this was very easy to get OUT of the box. It's surprisingly hefty but easy enough to place where you want it. I like the removable side panel to get at the controls and ports, so they're out of sight even if you're looking at it from the back. I have an Xbox Series X, a PlayStation 5, an Apple TV 4k newest model in 2022, a media center PC, Nintendo Switch, multi camera security NVR, Sony UBP-X700/M blu-ray player, and a Tablo all hooked into a Yamaha RX-A4A AVR. That's got two HDMI outs, one that goes to my OLED, and one to my Optoma. To begin testing, I started with my new HP Spectre X360 using a Thunderbolt to HDMI cable to output 4k content to the projector. My screen is NOT fixed, it isn't rigid, it's not ALR. But the open concept great room that shares my dining and kitchen area all have blackout shades so I can darken as needed. But I know this screen will not do the picture justice. Since it is not tensioned, I have some variations in the surface that are obvious when things have straight lines displaying, or when the camera is panning on whatever the content I'm showing. It makes it look as if my screen is waving like a flag in the wind. The UST projecting up on the uneven screen makes these uneven surfaces glaringly obvious when you're looking for it. But for testing, it will do. I was surprised with the brightness of the picture. I probably shouldn't have been, my Optoma is 3000 lumens and this is 4000. It should be brighter. I played a few sample movies at 4k and was pleased with the results. Good brightness levels at all the default settings. Brightness defaults to half bright, so the brightness was impressing me even though it was only mid-way through the settings, not in torch mode. I played some with the cinema settings, but even "vivid" didn't throw it into torch mode. I did not have a cable long enough (other than the 50 foot one I have running under the great room and up a floating half wall in the back where the Optoma is mounted) so I had to use two new cables I got for temp use for this - one 10 foot HDMI 2.1 cable, and one 5 foot HDMI 2.1 HDMI extension cable. I wired it into my receiver then. Since my Yamaha AVR can support both outputs at once, I did some Comparisions with things showing side by side, the OLED and the projector. Then later I disconnected the OLED TV and plugged both projectors in, so I could watch a movie, then turn one projector off and the other on, and direct compare everything. I'll post a few photos. Initially I was VERY disappointed. Picture didn't look nearly as good as it had previously with the laptop. I tried some Horizon Zero Dawn on the PS5 and it was totally unplayable and looked horrible. Since I had a better picture with the laptop, I figured I had to be dealing with an issue with the way it was cabled, using an extension even if it was supposedly fully HDMI 2.1 compliant. So, I ordered a new 15-foot HDMI for same day delivery from an online retailer and replaced the cables. Fortunately, that made a difference, and suddenly the picture from the Epson looked better again. I had issues with the PS5 with HDMI on until I adjusted the HDMI settings in the Epson settings menu, and then things started to pop again. Yes, the blacks are disappointing, but this is a projector, not an OLED. I'm hoping that, if I decide to keep this projector, that I'll get a better screen designed for an UST that will not be a simple white screen and do better on the blacks without sacrificing TOO much of the brightness. My media center though looks absolutely horrible when I enable HDR on it with the projector, although it looks great with HDR enabled on the OLED or even the Optoma projector. The Epson projector here simply turns all the whites to a dingy grey. Even after the HDR adjustment I did for the PlayStation 5, it just doesn’t look good. But if I leave it with HDR off on the PC, things look good. Yes, the text at 4k is obviously not great to look at, but subtitles look clear on TV and movie content. Video gaming was tested using Horizon Forbidden West via the Yamaha, and it looks good. I've included a few photos of that as well. Again, this is on my Elite motorized projector that doesn't have any special screen features... This should be vastly improved in a better screen. I love the silence as well. I'm used to my older Epson I used to have, or the Optoma now, having fan noise, especially when turning things off. I've had no noise at all from this. It's simply amazing compared to what I'm used to from projectors. I ran it for the last 17 hours straight, bingeing a show while I did other things around the house. Never a hiccup, never an issue. And no heat. NONE. All the surfaces were completely cool to the touch. The Optoma used to become a small heater, and in summer you could tell the difference when it was on for a while. It DOES shut the picture off though if something gets too near the projector. Doesn't even have to be between the projector and the screen, even being "behind" the projector and reaching around will be enough to have it kill the picture and put up a small warning saying that the picture is disabled until whatever is in the way is moved. I don't use the system for the smart TV kind of functions, so I have nothing I can attest to how well the apps run on it. For me I use my new Apple TV 4k for things like Philo and Tablo. Everything else is just direct content, MKV files, game consoles, UHD discs. Even with the lights in my great room turned on and bright as day inside, the picture is surprisingly watchable on my generic white screen. You can see in one of my photos the setup page when it is first turned on, and how clear it is and how bright the room was at the time. I also put in other photos showing the concurrent display to my 65 inch LG CX OLED and this, side by side. That should help put things into perspective considering how amazing the OLED picture is. This does not look at all bad side by side. Playing 4k UHD content from the Sony disc player gives a gorgeous picture as well. So as I've mentioned my Yamaha AVR a few times, it's probably obvious that I have a surround sound system, a full Dolby Atmos setup in my room. So I won't use the speaker on this. But I have to say, during my initial testing when I was plugged into my laptop, the sound was surprisingly full from this unit, not at all tinny or muddled. It was capable of reproducing quite a sound field. Focus is straight forward with the sliding knob under the removable cover on the side. I'm not a fan of that though, I would have FAR preferred a geared knob so that you could have some better fine tuning option, an easy way to do very incremental changes in the setting. You just can't do that with a sliding knob. My Optoma is on a custom mount I had a friend weld, hanging out over my couch from a half wall separating the kitchen from the great room. If I convert to this one, it would be nice to have no more things hanging in the air. This one is easy to position since I had a media table in that spot anyway, I just had to move some of my Lego pieces that were on display to make room for this. It has adjustment feet to let you tweak angles. So it shouldn't be too hard to get the picture straight and leveled. But as I said, you can't just use a standard hanging screen for this, unless it is tensioned, since otherwise it's like watching a movie on a flag as the breeze blows. I'll put up with it for now, until I find what I want to replace it with. And that's another downside of this kind of projector. To get the best picture, it's going to take quite an investment in the screen. The ones I'm looking at now are more expensive than my Optoma projector was new. I'm looking at screens that will be as expensive as a high end OLED TV. So you really have to not mind the investment not just in the projector, but the screen as well. This is not a cheap setup. But if you are willing to spend the money, I have to say that it is an impressive picture. Is it worth the total cost of the projector and a screen to do it justice? I'm not too sure about that. Considering how great my Optoma UHD60 is with this standard drop down projection screen, to make this work to its fullest will be about three times as much. I don't think the picture is three times better though. But the simplicity of not having a ceiling mount and a ridiculously long cable running through the basement under the floor to where a projector is hanging in the back of the room helps make the expense a bit more tolerable.
MikeM Posted
Ill be honest, im reviewing to try to get the 400$ gift card to offset the cost and make up for missing the sale price. That being said i really enjoy the projector. The resolution is awesome, its easy to set up and get watching. The selection of built in streaming apps is extensive including the standard selection but also some other options as well. The built in speaker is nice and loud and doesnt clip or break up when the volume gets high like most projector built in speakers. Its nice to have a bice big screen without having to worry about people walking in front of the projected image too. It has a nice yet semi anoying safety feature too where if you get to close to the projector while its on (anout 6" from the projected image) itll go dark and warn you about eye damage dangers if you get to close. A good feature if you have small children. The only crummy part is the price. I ended up getting a best buy card and financing it for 24 months which is something i dont think id have to do if i just got a regular 75" tv with similar features.
John Posted
I saw this on display at the Palm Beach Magnolia (amazing store by the way) over the summer. The wife and I had discussed projectors but we have 12ft ceilings and our “theater” is also the living room. Once we saw this UST, we realized we had other options! On to the projector, it’s paired with the EPSON Silverflex 120in. The brightness and contrast are nice even during sunrise with 8ft side windows down the whole wall. I landed on HDMI 3 from the receiver as it’s got low lag and our game consoles are connected to the AVR. I added an HDfury VRR to get Dolby Vision and it’s a beautiful picture. The pixel shifting 4K is fine and I’m super happy to have this projector and screen. My gripe is I have to switch out of the game mode to do pic adjustments and there’s no true CMS. 4.5 stars
This review is from Epson - LS800 4K PRO-UHD Ultra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Laser Projector, 4000 Lumens, HDR, up to150", Android TV, Yamaha Speakers - White
ChinavJ Posted
It has a high maximum brightness, visible practically everywhere in the house, and great power enough to support consoles running 120 fps. However, leaving your projector on for +8 hours on high brightness could cause issues such as hdmi not working, and impossible for you to off projector except unplugging it to power. This is an issue we had for our projector, but bestbuy helped us and gave us the complete sum we bought it for.
DavidB Posted
So far so good, easy to set up. It is very bright, and we easily adjusted focus and skew. We project directly onto a light tan painted wall, and it looks amazing. Only drawback is Vudu won't stream 4K movies we previously purchased on Vudu to the projector.
Quality Posted
It’s a great projector, with high quality image. The only downfall is the availability of apps. Hulu actually doesn’t work which according to my research is common but other than that it’s great!
This review is from Epson - LS800 4K PRO-UHD Ultra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Laser Projector, 4000 Lumens, HDR, up to150", Android TV, Yamaha Speakers - White
RachelD Posted
We bought this to use in a living room without a good “tv wall.” It added a lot of flexibility to the layout and we have it on a 18” tall console table and it works well. It has a pretty good picture (even without a screen) and sound - we’re not using a separate speaker. It does really well with overhead light but not as well with sunlight coming in so having a way to cover up windows well is important. My biggest complaint is that we have to unplug and restart it almost every day because it gets an error when we try to open different streaming apps. We’re using it with a Roku stick so we can access Netflix but I was pleasantly surprised that we could access our apple library directly through the projector. Overall I like it, and it’s working well for our needs.
This review is from Epson - LS800 4K PRO-UHD Ultra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Laser Projector, 4000 Lumens, HDR, up to150", Android TV, Yamaha Speakers - White
NaveenP Posted
Good experience and ease of use and nice to have it
Sarthak Posted
I just love this projector. The video quality is amazing and the ease of setup too! I initially had trouble sizing the screen but the companion Epson app makes it really easy! The only con is this doesn’t support Netflix which I found after buying! Manufacturers - please add support for Netflix!
This review is from Epson - LS800 4K PRO-UHD Ultra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Laser Projector, 4000 Lumens, HDR, up to150", Android TV, Yamaha Speakers - White
BryantC Posted
Great quality for a projector! Slight blurry area around the top corners of the screen that dont seem to go away no matter how much i mess with the settings, but overall a great purchase!
ShawnM Posted
Very pleased with this projector. Viewable even with the lights on. Wish it had a cover for the projector lens glass.
This review is from Epson - LS800 4K PRO-UHD Ultra Short Throw 3-Chip 3LCD Laser Projector, 4000 Lumens, HDR, up to150", Android TV, Yamaha Speakers - White