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There are presets on the 30 and not on the wave IV. For the wave you have to use the app or the remote. I think the sound is superior on the wave. But that is just by me listening, I am sure there are technical boffins that could tell you exact. They are both amazing products if your choosing between the two.... I would go with the Sound touch 20 and a wave if it is a money issue just buy and add one at a time, that's what I am currently doing and own 3 of there products. Love it and would not look at another networked system :-)
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