Logitech - G923 Racing Wheel and Pedals for PS5, PS4 and PC - Black

For the money this is a huge overall better experience racing in Grand turismo7. At first this was not easy to get use to, but after couple of hours of playing it makes the driving experience so real. Don't get me wrong the PS5 controllers are wonderful. This is just a whole new better experience. I did get a very good next level wheel stand 2.O that it attached to easily as my wife makes me fold up and put away each time. Looking through the windshield is just like being there for real. Having an 85" screen works too!

Simulation racing has come a long way since its humble origins in the late 1980s, with its popularity exploding in 2020 thanks to televised sim-racing broadcasts in lieu of actual racing. Logitech is a known name in the space, having made dozens of wheels for PC and console gaming alike since the late 1990s, coming to the forefront of affordable sim-racing gear. Logitech’s line of “G” racing wheels represent the top of their product stack, stepping up from basic arcade racing wheels and into what’s widely considered the minimum spec for competitive sim racing, thanks to their full 900-degree range of motion, dual force feedback motors, and clutch pedal support. The G923 is Logitech’s newest offering in the G wheel lineup, bringing back a proven design and adding a new haptic feedback system for more detail. But with little more than incremental updates elsewhere, the fourth release of the same basic wheel that debuted nearly 15 years ago is difficult to recommend in a niche, but competitive, game controller segment. I used iRacing on PC and Gran Turismo Sport on PS4 to test this wheel as both games currently support all of the wheel’s functions and features. - Unboxing and Setup Shipping in the same size box as generations prior, Logitech’s G923 feels substantial as the pedal base is weighted for additional traction on carpet. The box has additional space that fits the Logitech G Shifter (sold separately) so that you can pack the complete wheel setup away if you’re using non-hardpoint mounting options. The steering wheel clamps to a table or desk using two dials that pop up to adjust and down to lock, which tighten or loosen the clamps underneath. The clamps support tables up to about 4 inches thick without the plastic spacers, and as thin as one-quarter inch with them. The clamps alone hold the wheel firmly in place, though there are hardpoints for M6 screws for mounting to a driving cockpit or other permanent solution. The pedals have both rubber feet for hardwood floors, and a pop-down carpet gripping plate, but neither hold the base all too well. The pedal base also has M6 hardpoints. Logitech makes setting up the G923 straightforward for PS4 users - simply update the console and plug the wheel into an open USB port. PC setup was a little more frustrating as the indicated support page to download the Logitech G Hub software did not exist at the time of review, so I had to peruse their website to find and install. - A Note on Force Feedback Mechanisms The Logitech G923 is an evolutionary upgrade from the company’s prior wheel offerings. The wheel’s sensors and primary force feedback mechanism are identical to the G920/G29 and G27 racing wheels that preceded it, all of which share a tweaked version of the G25’s mechanism that debuted in late 2006. All of these wheels use gear-driven force feedback, where small motors are connected to the steering shaft via metal cogs. The next step above gear-driven is belt-driven, where motors spin pulleys on a belt wrapped around the steering shaft, delivering smoother and stronger force feedback. Logitech does not offer a belt-driven wheel at this time. Gear-driven is typically considered the entry point for serious (competitive) sim racing. While most offerings in the category output low torque and have somewhat rough steering feel, they make up the difference in durability and affordability. I can’t speak to the G923’s longevity after only a few days, but I bought a Logitech G25 over 14 years ago which is on its third owner, still running strong after over a hundred thousand virtual miles. I have no doubt the G923 will last for many years as the mechanism is virtually identical. - Force Feedback Impressions Having used several entry level and high end racing wheels over the last few years, starting with Logitech’s own Driving Force Pro many years ago, using the G923 for the first time brought back memories of many hours spent learning virtual circuits and going for wins. The leather wrapped steering wheel, brushed paddle shifters, and metal pedal faces are all premium touches that carry back to Logitech’s first G wheel, the G25. The G923 feels great in hand and underfoot, and adding a G Shifter further expands the premium feel into a full simulation setup. The motion of the wheel isn’t perfectly smooth - you can feel the gearing of the motor mechanism prominently - but it is still easy to turn the wheel when no force is active. When the force does kick in, the wheel’s motors provide a good sensation of the steering column being nudged one way or another over small imperfections and camber changes on the virtual road. This is of course dependent on your game providing accurate force feedback; simulations like iRacing and Gran Turismo will more accurately convey what the front wheels are doing than arcade racers like Need for Speed or Burnout Paradise. Overall the force feedback is on the weaker side, coming in at or below the amount of force you’ll find in racing games at a proper arcade. It’s enough to simulate small forces acting upon the car’s front wheels, but large effects resulting from oversteer, collisions, or loss of grip are very muted on the G923. I had a lot of difficulty finding the edge of grip in both Gran Turismo Sport and iRacing, causing me to lose control or slow down in situations I would normally handle with aplomb in higher-spec racing wheels. Some of this may be from familiarity, admittedly, but the time it takes the G923 to respond to harsh action is readily apparent. - Control Impressions The pedal base, like the wheel base, is an evolutionary upgrade from the prior Logitech G wheels. The major upgrades for this model are the brushed metal pedal faces for a more premium appearance, and a change to the brake’s return spring to make it much stiffer and progressive than before. The brake is much firmer than prior models, all but mandating the pedals be hard-mounted or otherwise held in place, but the result is a much more natural, progressive brake pedal that is easier to modulate with the right amount of brake force. It’s still a potentiometer-based brake that measures the angle of the pedal rather than a load cell that measures the pressure applied to the pedal (more accurately simulating real brakes), but the improvement here from the older G wheels’ pedals is substantial. Back on the wheel, all of the PS4’s primary buttons are present save for the analog sticks and R1/R2 (which are now the shift paddles). These all have a mechanical click to them that ensures button presses, while the d-pad is passable for menu or HUD navigation. An additional set of increment/decrement (+/-) buttons and a scroll dial with enter button allow for mid-race adjustments in supported games like Gran Turismo Sport. These buttons work great to add useful secondary features to race cars, though the scroll dial feels cheap and is a little distracting to use. - TrueForce New for the G923 is a haptic feedback system Logitech dubs “TrueForce.” This is a vibration feedback system atop the wheel’s force feedback that attempts to add more depth to the forces acting upon the wheel. This adds a front-to-rear dimension to the force feedback to simulate forces that don’t act upon the angle of the front wheels directly; when you run over a bump or crack on the road at speed, you don’t necessarily feel the wheel push one way or another, but you’ll feel the jolt or vibration through the rest of the car. TrueForce aims to replicate that sort of sensation without the more complex and expensive option of attaching a transducer (a low-frequency speaker similar to a subwoofer) to a simulator cockpit that mimics the same. TrueForce works surprisingly well. In both iRacing and Gran Turismo Sport, the haptic feedback delivers a good sensation of road feel and engine coarseness, both of which augment the wheel’s force feedback and create more “depth” of force in the process. The only downside I found against this system was unlike transducers built in to some other racing wheels, the haptic feedback transmits entirely into the steering column and not into the rest of the driving simulator cockpit. Transducers will vibrate the entire frame, delivering the road feel sensation through the wheel stand which can be felt in the pedals. - Value & Bottom Line This is where the G923 begins to fall flat against its competition for serious sim racers. Despite its durability and system compatibility over competing models, the $399 MSRP for pedal and wheel kit is a tough sell made tougher by the need to purchase the shifter separately if you desire the full manual transmission experience. Older models in the Logitech G Wheel lineage had the shifter included, and the kits launched at lower MSRPs than the G923 wheel and pedal combo alone. The G923’s MSRP begins to encroach on belt-driven racing wheel territory, which is a major step up in force strength, detail, and smoothness. I was hoping Logitech would have updated their mechanism to a belt-drive to compete, but TrueForce is the only feature they bring to the table at this price. Ultimately then, the question is whether TrueForce alone justifies the higher MSRP. It’s a very convincing effect, but in my opinion it isn’t worth sacrificing an entire tier of force feedback quality just for haptics. This is by and large the wheel’s biggest downfall - TrueForce would be very much welcome on a belt-driven wheel, delivering the high quality all-in-one sim racing solution at a great price point similar to what made Logitech’s G Wheels famous in the first place. At the time the G25 was unrivaled at its $299 price point, but competing offerings have improved greatly in the decade and a half since and now compete very closely. With more options on the market today that deliver a better core driving experience for similar money, I can’t recommend the G923 at MSRP as an entry point into sim racing.

This will change your racing forever! Better times, real cornering and braking and good force feedback with TrueForce! The pedals are responsive and it’s super easy plug and play set up will have you racing in no time. You can’t beat it at this price point.

I have tried all the steering wheels to play GT7 this one turned out to be one of kind with the TrueForce Technology same time trying to get hands on TGT2 ….

I love this wheel feels like a real car recommend it to get it if u looking for one

This is a good upgrade for my 2010 G27. It adds updated on-wheel functions. I'm currently using the wheel on PC/iRacing. iRacing supports Trueforce. The best i can explain Trueforce is feeling the motor always. Pretty cool on start up and the synced accelerator buzz throughout the race. The size and basic feel are identical to my old G27. Fits Playseat perfectly. There's some work to do with Project Cars 2 recognition, but I doubt it will be fixed in lieu of PC3 (garage btw). Highly recommend for beginners and amateur racing.

Just started SIM racing and this set works great. Good quality and makes the racing very realistic

Love these wheels, near to real experience playing games like NFS and Formula 1. You can experience the difficulty level with the feedback and response. Need a platform to mount the steering wheel. Overall a fun product, happy gaming.